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Camping leaves the Prediction Camp

November 1, 2011 Leave a comment

I saw this article today- and my reaction was “Thank God.” It’s about time Mr. Camping  gave this up. I’ve written a couple of posts about FamilyRadio’s  former head (you can search my blog for “harold camping”).

In a 5 min. message on their website he admits that they need some more humility before the Lord and says that they have to be very careful not to dictate to God what He should do or when He should do it. He is God and He is in control. He said God will reveal truth to us in His time. He says “We are simply learning, and sometimes it’s painful to learn.” He mentioned that there was a level of embarrassment for Family Radio through their ordeal. He also admits in his message, “Oh Lord, I don’t know anything. Lord, You teach me.  And that’s the attitude that has to be a part of each one of us.” He also apologized for saying that people who did not believe that the rapture would occur on May 21 were not saved. “I should not have said that, and I apologize for that.”

Well, that’s a far different tune than previously stating over and over again that the rapture would occur on certain dates (possibly even 20, said one follower)  “beyond the shadow of a doubt.”

Is he really done predicting? I hope so. I still feel for those who gave up everything on this falsity. 80 million dollars could have gone to much better uses!

Family Radio (Before and After)

May 24, 2011 2 comments

Here is Harold Camping’s Family Radio website homepage on May 21st:

Here is the homepage after:

I fortunately snagged the image from the former before they changed it. The latter has been stripped of all things May 21st.

All this is no surprise to me, if you read my “The End is Near?” post and comments I made under it. I predicted this stance that Harold Camping has taken, and it’s a much better and wiser prediction than any he’ll ever make. He’s back peddling now, like he did in 1994. Is he really “flabbergasted” and “dumbfounded”. Can he really figure out what he did wrong in his calculations? I’ll tell you what he did wrong. He calculated. All based off of a wrong premise. October 21, 2011 will be no different. He wasn’t off by five months, he was off by bad hermeneutics. No amount of time and figuring will help. People need to stop believing him. I’m amazed that some people, still follow him after May 21st. Some believe God delayed his judgment because of their prayers! They’ll believe anything except that Camping is a fraud. Either a fraud or a confused old man.

I try to be nice in my posts. Too many go the opposite extreme and are downright mean an “unchristian” in their attacks. A firm stance is one thing. He is a false teacher and prophet, with zero credibility. But being crude is also uncalled for.

This post has some good points and stories in it:

This one too:

Here’s Harold claiming to need some time to think before doing any interviews.

He say he needs time to think? How about thinking about returning people the money they gave you to follow your message? Why didn’t you sell your house before the rapture if you weren’t going to need it? This is plain ridiculous. His poor followers fund his delusions. They need to turn to the truth. All this crying wolf is an abuse that will numb people into believing it’s all a myth. Instead we need to live like perhaps today Christ could return. Are we truly ready? Are we busy doing his work? Not renting billboards that promote a false, dangerous, and embarrassing date-setting message. Real ministry! This devo scripturally makes a case for doing just that: It’s worth the short read! Scripturally speaking, it’s not for us to know times and seasons, but rather we are to Be Busy About Ministry Until The Lord Returns.

I’m done with all this Harold Camping stuff. I first saw them in February and was anxious to expose his heresy. But it’s a waste of time and effort. It’s simply not worth my time. On to more important things like doing real ministry. My hometown of Joplin, MO is suffering greatly right now, and not due to any of Camping’s predictions. Here’s a trusted place where you can give to help relief efforts in that devasted town- It’s better than giving to other organizations because 100% goes to the relief effort and faster than others. It’s SOOOOOOO much better than giving anything to Family Radio or Harold Camping!!!!

I’d never give to Camping, but I am giving to Joplin relief and so should you!

The End is Near?

May 18, 2011 7 comments

I’ve been waiting to blog about Harold Camping since I first heard about him back in February. On the border there is this annual parade, and it’s a big deal. With so many people downtown in one place, guess who rolled into town. A bunch of people that looked like they weren’t from around these parts, and they were spouting off some crazy talk and pamphlets spelling out the Rapture and the beginning of the end on May 21st, 2011 as a guaranteed fact. As a pastor, I had just finished an extensive Wednesday nights study of Revelation (Jesus only gave one unveiling or revelation, not many as I’ve heard these Camping faithfuls say “RevelationS”, that’s beside the point, I digress). For this study, I read more in preparation than I have ever done in my years in ministry. I have a totally different view of eschatology (study of end times) than HC (Harold Camping) does, including not even believing in a Rapture in the way that millions do. My views are for another post and they are not the ones in question. I’m not claiming to have it all figured out either. Furthermore, your eschatological view is not an essential element to salvation. Jesus could come back today or tomorrow, probably not on May 21st since so many claim they know he will, but maybe on May 22 or maybe not in our lifetime. We need to be ready at all times.

I had told my group never to believe if someone said they knew when all this will take place, because you can’t know. Then this group rolled into town. It was exhibit A. All people who have claimed to know have one thing for sure in common. They’ve all been WRONG. Every time. That’s where this becomes dangerous.

For one, this whole ordeal, which is now gaining more media coverage is making Christians look foolish. One little group (well, pretty big actually) is making us all look bad and crazy. Then others who are defending the truth, do so in such a mocking and drastic way that they also give us a bad rap. These sincere followers are misguided and wasting their energy and money on things that will eventually be a “great disappointment” to them. They will have a choice, to continue to follow Camping, or follow Christ. We need to pray for these folks.

HC will make excuses, he’ll claim further study and revelation (even though there’s only ONE revelation, again, not many, and 2 Peter 1:20  says that “no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation.”). He may say he made a mistake or miscalculation and then guess again, making up more magical calculations and some good money in the process. Followers of HC claim he gives his books away, that he’s not out for money. Yet his “non-profit” Family Radio has 120 million dollars of donations from well intentioned followers, and that’s on the books. I’ve read as much as $250 mil, but that just in a viewer comment. That he’s not out for money, is just another bold face lie. I can hear Bill Cosby’s voice from his Noah routine saying, “RIGHT!”

About Camping’s book– this is a real nugget. It’s called “1994”. It’s about how all this is going to happen in September of 1994. Wait a minute, that’s way back when my family came off of the mission field, and nothing happened. In the book he states, “We must conclude that the return of Christ will not be 2011 A.D”.  page 495.  So wait a minute, if you believe Harold Camping, then that means you can’t believe Harold Camping! He contradicts himself, and scripture.

In 1994 Camping’s failed prediction even caused 1 man to commit suicide because he was so embarrassed, and many abandoned the faith altogether. He’s got so many people hook, line, and sinker, it’s like a cult. It’s really sad.

Camping has predicted the rapture approx. 7 times. Deut. 18:21-22 states he is disqualified and a false prophet. Let’s let HC speak for himself:

How certain are you that world is going to end on May 21 — do you have any doubts?
God has given sooo much information in the Bible about this, and so many proofs, and so many signs, that we know it is absolutely going to happen without any question at all. There’s nothing in the Bible that God has ever prophesied — there’s many things that he prophesied would happen and they always have happened — but there’s nothing in the Bible that holds a candle to the amount of information to this tremendous truth of the end of the world. I would be absolutely in rebellion against God if I thought anything other than it is absolutely going to happen without any question.

But you were wrong the first time you predicted that the end of the world would take place in September of 1994. So you must think, in the back of your mind, that maybe you can’t actually predict when the end of the world will be.
In 1992, two years earlier than that, I had already begun to see that there was a good likelihood that 2011 would be the end, but at that time when my research in the Bible was not nearly complete

If six o’clock rolls around and there are no major earthquakes, are you going to start to get worried?
It’s going to happen. It’s going to happen. I don’t even think about those kind of issues. The Bible is not — God is not playing games. I don’t even want to think about that question at all. It is going to happen.

Are you going to do something with all your money before the 21st? Are you going to donate it to charity or something?
What’s the point? In other words, Judgment Day is the end of the world. That means that the whole world is in judgment, it will not be business as usual at all. At all.

 There you have it. From HC himself. Whatever happened to humility and submission in Biblical interpretation? There’s even more on the link I provided. He makes up a bunch of stuff, including holy numbers that aren’t accepted as such.

In numerology you can say anything you want to say. I could say that “Cute Purple Dinosaur” is 666 the mark of the beast through numerology. He bases his math on a date for Christ’s crucifixion on Friday April 1, AD 33, a date that most commentators would take issue with for several reasons, and no one really is sure, there are so many variables. It’s crucial for his findings, and already wobbly.  That and his other important dates such as 1948, Israel as a nation, Christians are divided on whether this is a fulfillment of Scripture. He takes controversial or at least debatable dates and counts on his interpretation as fact and his findings depend on his being right. Like I said, I could debate and take issue with most of his important data.

Youtube user : (Steve is his name) has done just that. He’s posted many videos, a lot longer than this one:, and has gone toe to toe with one of the biggest followers of Camping-  (Bill, I think is his name).

Witness of the (false) truth spreads his so-called “truth” in the marketplace with over 60 videos and thousands of views, adamandtly using the King James only. He’s passionate and very present among the harsh comments. Hetgow has challenged him to put his money (if he has any left) where his mouth is. Give him all his money, since he won’t need it after Saturday, and Hetgow will donate to Bible distribution after the fact. He didn’t take him up on it. So the challenge was lowered to $1…no dice. 1 month ago Witnessofthetruth said “Good-bye youtube”, but has resurfaced with videos of 4, 3, 2 and probably tomorrow, 1 day of mercy.

Hetgow recently pleaded with Witnessofthetruth with a sincere tone to not do anything foolish on May 22nd, when he crashes and falls hard. Again, we should really pray for these deluded followers of a person, a person already shown to be a false teacher and prophet. When you press either Camping or Witnessofthetruth they, of course, get defense and down right fiesty!

A little scripture shows the clear message of Christ regarding the end:

Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.  (Matthew 7:15)

…many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. (Matthew 24:11)

Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. (Matthew 24:35-36)

Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour. (Matthew 25:13)

“So if anyone tells you, ‘There he is, out in the wilderness,’ do not go out; or, ‘Here he is, in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.  For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. (Matthew 24:26-27)

When a prophet speaks in the LORD’s name, and the message does not come true or is not fulfilled, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.  (Deuteronomy 18:22-23)

If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions, and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that religion is a means of gain (1 Timothy 6:3-5).

HC says that on Saturday at 6pm in every time zone (really? that’s weird) a large earthquake will take place and graves will open up, and the truly saved will be raptured up. Well, if that doesn’t take place, and you believed it, please never believe this guy or anyone like him again. Enough with the date setting! Be ready at all times. I’ll be praising God at a David Crowder concert Saturday night. I seriously don’t think Jesus will come back then, but when he does, I’ll be ready.

Will this Saturday, May 21st, be the Rapture (if you belive in a “rapture” to start)? Then in a weird twist 5 months later as Camping states, will October 21st be the end of the world? Or will May 22nd mark the end of Harold Camping, or at least taking him seriously?

What do you think?

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